Ask Guru Gobbo #49

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- September 7th, 2008


  1. Koopa Cruiser
  2. Kirby Kirby Kirby
  3. Sapphire Kirby
  4. Plopcorn
  5. Airride Master
  6. Kebbers
  7. Spinni
  8. Sharnay
  9. CuteGirl574

..... I can't think of a polite introduction, sue me.

Anyway, I have a few questions about the newest game in the Kirby series, which is of course Kirby Super Star Ultra... (Of course, it isn't out yet)

1: Considering that, in Europe, Kirby Super Star was known as Kirby's Fun Pak, (WTH is that for a name?!) do you think that the European version of the game will be renamed to match the prequels name? (Personally, I doubt it.)

2: In the trailer for the game, at one point, I saw an attack resembling NIDL's Freeze ability. Was Freeze combined with Ice in Kirby's Fan Pak? (Yeah, I know. I haven't played it yet.)

3: Why did they use Metys animé design for the Revenge of Meta Knight intro?! The anime sucked!

4: Do you think Fatty Whale will return? Because, from what I've seen on Kirby's Fan Pak so far, Fatty Whale seems like a really fun boss to battle against. I also remember him (or it) for his extremely awkward death sequence, where he spins into the background and drops like a rock into the sea...

Anyway, I apologise for any bother I might have caused.

- Koopa Cruiser

Squeaky Bogg

1) I would think they could do that, but I haven't heard anything about the games release anywhere outside of America and Japan. They originally just tagged "Deluxe" onto Adventure for its remake, but, then again, that was only in Japan where it was called "The Fountain of Dreams" or something to that effect. Obviously, we got Nightmare in Dream Land, but this was also done for a cross promotional effort to link Kirby to the new animated series. They could very well change the title to "Fun Pak Ultra" to fit with the region, but it would equally go with the seemingly international Super Star Ultra.

2) They logically were mashed together, but, unlike with the two flaming abilities, they didn't produce the same logical separation. Fire spewed tongues normally and turned into the classic Burning fireball when dashing. Likewise, Ice spit out a chilly breath when standing but then put up the Freeze shield when dashing? It worked, I guess, but you'd think you would want a protective shield attack when standing still, either by ducking or by rapidly pressing the button. I guess I'm fixed up on ol' Blanka's electric attack.

3) They used the animated series' character design for Meta Knight since... that's how they integrate things. It's just like how the masked warrior wields Galaxia in Brawl rather than his true blade, Master. People relate more with the animated series than they do to his game appearances. I really can't blame them. When you compare the one-hundred episodes to a handful of brief appearances in games, one certainly outweighs the other. I can't blame them for it, but I still don't have to like it.

4) Fatty Whale was a pretty major boss. Well, not really, but he was a boss. In the previous remake, certain foes got the ax like Rolling Turtle, Bounder, and Spiny who were replaced with PhanPhan, Gip, and Needlous. It's pretty easy to cut these guys out since their replacements were exactly identical in behavior. For Fatty, replacing him would require another large, slow moving, aquatic who foe shot a stream of something straight up and jumped a lot. If they did change him, he'd be exactly the same, effectively. I don't know if they would give ol' Fatty the cute make over like Rolly got, but I don't think it's likely.


Hi

Does Kirby look exactly alike in Kirby: Squeak Squad and Kirby Super Star Ultra?

And in Kirby Super Star Ultra, can you play multiplayer in Adventure mode?

- Kirby Kirby Kirby

Squeaky Bogg

1) It's hard to tell, but they are not. You can see that the Kirby sprite in Super Star Ultra appears to be a bit larger and doughier, especially when running. I've compared it side by side to the same type of running sprite from Squeak Squad, and it's a whole new beast. That means that all you sprite-ripping monkeys will have to start your hard work all over again. Ha-hah!

2) From what I can tell, and what has been expressed, a friend can only join in on the adventure play of things as the recruited helper. Whether or not they've added something for the helper to do while there's no ability, I don't know. I guess they just sit around and be bored. However, the added mini-games and Gourmet Race allow multiple players. I assume this about Race since a screen shot shows a pink and yellow Kirby running alongside King Dedede.


I always seem to argue with ya, don't I? Well, no references to previous sessions today! Well I think...

1. Why do people keep on sending their Meta Knight theories to you? This isn't the fanfiction section! If anything, he is just a creature similar to Kirby that wheres a mask because puffballs are not very threatening swordsmen.

2. If you ever do decide to change Ask the Gurus to once a week, will you give us a warning.

3. I am a big fan of Pokémon. I bring this up because you like to use Pokémon as examples in your answers as much as mythology and more than necromancy (ahoy!). You also knew about 4th generation abilities when describing Kirby as a Pokémon, meaning you keep up with the times. So... ARE you a fan of Pokémon? Which one is your favorite? (mine are Meowth and Wobbuffet.) Do you own any Pokémon games?

Wow, that last question has nothing to do with Kirby at all, doesn't it?

- Sapphire Kirby

P.S. I didn't know that Arco was the wrong spelling. I never obtained his enemy card in Kirby 64.

Squeaky Bogg

1) I made the mistake of saying that I'd take all sorts of questions and submission, including theories. This was meant more like theories to why things were or to explain things that were glibbed over or didn't make sense in the games and such. However, the sweetest honey catches the most flies, and Meta Knight is a hollow, plastic bear! I completely agree with you, however. There's probably not anything big and dark about his past or reasons, at least there probably wasn't. With how he, undoubtedly, spiraled out of control with his popularity, the game makers will probably try to pull some lame stunt like making he and Kirby brothers. Oh, man, if that happens, I swear, I quit.

2) It probably wouldn't drop down to once a week without warning. You'd probably see a trickle effect. First, every other day, then every two. Again, output is determined by input, and while I've probably been getting about the same amount of submissions, the bar has been raised slightly. Questioners like yourself, Theorizer, Prophallus, and other keen blokes whom names I'm neglecting to include make the grade, but then some people just seem to feel they have to ask something every day, even if they don't have a good question in mind. "What would Wario do in Kirby's world?" is not a question anyone cares about!

3) Truthfully, I use Pokémon (and often Super Mario Bros. and Legend of Zelda) for comparisons and references since it is relatable. It's another video game series and is popular enough that when I mention it, people know what I'm talking about. The mythological ones, well, don't really ring many bells in most folks.

Anyhoo, you guessed correct, I've been bitten by the Poké Virus, and have been since the late '90s. Games, toys, plushes, I have a mess of stuff meeting my adoration, most all of it from the chromatic generations. It took me forever to finally get into the metallics, and I haven't even bridged into the crystalline waves or further. However, I've been trying to keep savvy on them as new info comes out, just so I know.

I did this since I was a big(ger) player back on Blizzard's old Pokémon Battle Simulator, but I couldn't really keep up with the evolving strategy and use of "ubers" in battles. I mean, my favorites are Beedril and Vileplume, not to mention that all the next few top entries also share Poison type. Since I play with what I like, and what I like is garbage, I sucked it up. Anyhoo, some part of me still likes to know what latest tactics are available and how many old monsters have been inferiorated. Pretty much, yeah, all that I liked.


2 quickies.

Why was Kirby's Dreamland the only game to include a Hard Mode? I really think that most Kirby games need one, asides from the true hard ones like Amazing Mirror and Superstar.

Is top really gona be in Kirby of the Stars? Cuz That guy, "Cake is Real" or somethin said it was.

I loved the top ability in the anime, and always wished for it to be in a game.

Why where Gordos the only enemies not replaced in the extra game?

- Plopcorn

Squeaky Bogg

1) Dream Land 1 was the sole title to have two wholly different versions of play since it was short enough to allow it. Other games tried to duplicate this effect by allowing half the life and no saving, but the first in the series was so short, they could actually change every occurrence of an enemy or change the behavior of a boss. In the larger, more complicated games, this feat just isn't possible, or at least feasible.

2) Much like I told Cake, there's no evidence of this. They mention a Water ability, and it plus several others have been confirmed in the released videos for the game. However, there is no top ability shown anywhere or mentioned anywhere in either the Game Cube or Wii versions of supposedly upcoming title.

3) Waddle Dee wasn't replaced. Waddle Doo wasn't replaced. Poppy Bros. Jr. wasn't either. Broom Hatter, Blipper, Coner, Flapper, Scarfy. Should I go on? Anyways, a change in appearance came with a change in behavior. Blopper chucked frosting at you, Grumples moved faster and less predictably, and even Blatzy fired three rounds before pausing. What could a Gordo do? Moving any faster, and they would have made quite the pickle. They had a set path. There wasn't much for them to change with. I believe, however, that like a lot of things, their damage dealt was increased in Extra Game.


Hi! I'm new to the site so I Don't really know my way around. But, on to the question! Where is the Fan-Submitted Animal Friends portion of the site?? I saw Dedede-Daimyo's "Rolly the Rolling Turtle" and I want to see more! Please help! Thanks in advance.:)

- Airride Master

Squeaky Bogg

Oh, my. You're in for a disappointment. If You Could Make An Animal Friend was pretty much slaughtered, dominated, owned, and subsequently sold off in tiny bits by the awesomeness that is Dedede Daimyo. I mean, not only were they only one to offer their own picture, beautifully drawn at that, but they drew out all of the classic power combinations to boot. And this isn't even taking into account the fact that he got how an Animal Friend was suppose to behave, especially with copy abilities. I mean, really, I wonder if some of the submitters even had played any of those older games before because some of them had me questioning it.


Hey there, Snaffy.

I've been reading your Q&A sessions for awhile, but there is something that has yet to be answered by your glorious answering talents. You're always complaining about how NiDL was dumbed down from the original Adventure, but I must know how so. Were powers buffed? Enemies nerfed? Did they take out levels or screens or something? Anyways, thanks for your time.

- Kebbers

Squeaky Bogg

That's a good point. I don't believe I've ever stacked up all the wrongs done by the game to the one I oh-so loved. Many of them are little hitches that they took out to make the game more easily playable and enjoyable. You know, those fun little hurtles that give a game character. Not in the remake, oh no. It had to be pampered and pretty. Now, since I never actually played the remake, most of my knowledge comes from videos watched on-line and Wolf4Knowledge's guide on the changes between games. Thanks, Wolfie!

To start, all of the secret doors were made mildly less secret. Before, there'd be the faintest hint of a door actually being there, but they made it more obvious. I mean, what? Did secret doors go out of style in games or something? People don't know how to look for them anymore? Bah!

Before, hills were a problem to overcome. Trying to walk up them was next to impossible, which was right. You really shouldn't have an easy time walking up a steep incline. However, you can easily do such here. Walking uphill is like going across level ground. It's minor, yes, but lame.

Extra Mode has saving possible. This is kinda stupid but kinda makes sense. They did add a mode after this one that doesn't have saving, so I guess it balances out. Still, tho', they shoulda made you have to do it all in one run to be able to get to the chance to do it as Meta Knight.

The underwater attack, Water Gun, is a further traveling bullet rather than a shorter spout. Underwater play was one of the most difficult things to manage, as it should be. This is one of the saving graces of a held weapon. They provided the best offence beneath the waves. Aiding out in anyway just is wrong.

Some ability changes include Hi-jump being usable after a jump rather than needing a launching point, Backdrop dashing rather than inhaling (I guess that one could be for better or worse?), and Needle being able to be held out indefinitely.

Outside of that, the reduction in screen size resulted in everything being a bit more compact and didn't meet up well. Less screen, bigger sprites, not a good pairing. This threw off enemy timings. I know in a scene from Butter Building, for example, some perched Bronto Burts normally weight patiently for Kirby to get close before taking off. In the new version, they launch about when Kirby touches the ladder. Way lame.

Now, to throw in some peeves: Meta Knight not tossing some of the Invincible Candies, no more Ouch! icon, the existence of hats, no crane game, and the lack of a revolving Butter Building! And those, there, are some of my personal reasons. Granted, they are all minor and insignificant, but when you roll them all up in a Katamari Damacy ball, it gets pretty large, sticky, and unpleasant.


I think I have been playing a little too much Squeak Squad...Anyways, it is me, SSBB Fan.

Here is my question.

Who is the hardest to defeat-

Spinni, Storo or Doc?

- Spinni

Squeaky Bogg

I think I've said it multiple times, but I've never played the game, Squeak Squad. I don't even own a DS. Can't really opinion that too well. I mean, I would guess that Storo would be the slow, easily handled type and that Doc would be a little more predictable in his movements. Spinni, who I'm taking is the faster of them, would probably give a more chaotic and quicker pace of fight, so why not that one?


In the kirby anime (english version) on that episode "snack attack part 2", when fighter kirby threw that karate master, Meta knight said: " kirby nutralized him with a tomo trove move" in 2003. But this time, on september 6 2008 when that same episode came on again,when kirby did that same move, Meta knight named that move a different name. What's up with that?

And also, can you show us kirby fans that kirby episode "catipillar triller"(episode 74) on youtube? Thank you for answering those questions for me!!

- Sharnay

Squeaky Bogg

1) Uh, there doesn't seem to be any record of any change occurring or being mentioned anywhere. Are you sure there was actually a change made? The move is called the Tomoe Throw. I can't imagine they'd call it a "trove", nor would the master be "nutralized". That would be stuffin' him with vitamins. Being neutralized makes more sense, or any sense, really.

2) ... If it is on YouTube, can't folks just go to YouTube and watch it? I'm not linking to that cesspool in a cesspool.


I know I wasn't supposed to appear again for another few weeks or so... But I wanted to a peace offering. Hope you enjoy it... Hehehheheh....

Suddenly one of the hottest chicks EVAR walks into the room

"Why, hello there Squeaky Bogg..." she says in a sexy tone. She winks at you. "Hee hee!" she says. "Do you think I'm cute?" She smiles. "Well... I have something I want to show you..."

Suddenly, "Hey, CG574, did you get to Squeaky Bogg so you can destroy him yet?" is heard from a speaker somewhere...

"Er......"

"What is it?"

"I'm kind of standing right in front of him."

"... You mean I just gave away that you were a Robot?"

"Well, now you did..."

"Er.... GO TO PLAN B!" Squeaky Bogg's Unnamed Arch Enemy yells.

"BLARGHH" The robo-thing's arm suddenly turns into a Laser Cannon. "Die, Squeaky Bogg!" *.... Bzt.*

"... What happened, CG574?"

"I think my laser arm is backed up..."

"... Uh-oh."

KABOOOM!

All parts of the robot seem to have been destroyed... Except that small speaker. "Grr... My plan failed! Oh well... I'll still be back sometime between Sessions #66 and #69... Hehehehe.... Until than my foe! See you!" The speaker explodes in Squeaky Bogg's Face.

- Squeaky Bogg's Unnamed Arch Enemy

Squeaky Bogg

Aaah... classic.


Repeat Response:

  1. Halberd Stop Crashing wanted to know if Project RAINBOW was continuing.


To note, since Sapphire Kirby asked about it, tomorrow, no Session! I had originally planned to skip this weekend, but trudged on despite of it. Now, I physically can't do anything tomorrow, most likely, since I don't have any goods to do. Note: goods. There's, like, a slight chance something may pop up, but I wouldn't hold your breath. You got your wish, Speedy.

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