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PostPosted: August 20th, 2016, 12:21 pm 
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I don't know if something along these lines already exists, but I wanted to create a thread where people can discuss their theories about the characters in the Kirby universe. Basically, anything that isn't confirmed in canon is entirely open to theories such as if the character is a redeemed boss. I'll start with my example / theory:

I believe Marx (if he ever comes back) would not be an enemy anymore. This is furthered by the fact Kirby did a doodle of him and the fact he only seems to draw boss characters that have been redeemed or characters that he considers friends / that weren't really evil / that were probably manipulated into being evil. Considering the CROQUIS books are official merch, I feel I have more of a reason to believe this.
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PostPosted: August 20th, 2016, 2:50 pm 
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i enjoy that theory a LOT considering i hate when people have to like hyper-villanize the characters (considering the lot of them are in kirby-master)
which yes, isnt canon, but id like to believe the lot of them could be friends or at least friend-or-foe types (like dedede and meta knight once were)
i prefer characters being redeemed

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PostPosted: August 20th, 2016, 2:55 pm 
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i prefer characters being redeemed
Same honestly! It's a lot more fun to see the characters go from bad to good and learn from their mistakes.

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PostPosted: August 20th, 2016, 4:03 pm 
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I mean it's the Kirby universe, so pretty much any villain can come back to life and/or turn into one of Kirby's friends at any time, with little to no explanation. It's happened before, and nobody minded, because Kirby plots are goofy and childish, any depth is usually pretty hidden, and related to backstory and stuff. (Not that that's a bad thing, I find it kind of refreshing!)

Marx has already come back from the dead a second time, just to play Pinball in Kirby Mass attack, so anything is possible!

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PostPosted: August 20th, 2016, 8:23 pm 
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I mean it's the Kirby universe, so pretty much any villain can come back to life and/or turn into one of Kirby's friends at any time, with little to no explanation. It's happened before, and nobody minded, because Kirby plots are goofy and childish, any depth is usually pretty hidden, and related to backstory and stuff. (Not that that's a bad thing, I find it kind of refreshing!)

Marx has already come back from the dead a second time, just to play Pinball in Kirby Mass attack, so anything is possible!
That makes sense. I'm really glad that it can bring back characters no matter if they die or not, because there can usually be a pretty cool theory as to why it happens~!

I remember the pinball game!
It was really silly and fun. I was really happy to see Marx again too!
I think I honestly liked the side games more than the actual game, but I haven't beat it yet so I probably shouldn't say that.

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PostPosted: October 16th, 2016, 4:21 am 
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Mass attack also had nice anime references, yet anime lore and game lore will continue to be two separate things, both enjoyable in their own right.

About theories on Marx, I don't know if there might have been an official explanation but he could have had those crystalline bat wings from the start and only revealed them for the big fight. He can do that in Mo~Pupu! by the way, yet I know the manga isn't canon. These are my thoughts: Marx makes Kirby summon the Galactic Nova and wishes for the control over Popstar. If the bat wings were the fulfillment of that wish, Nova would not have to fly over to Pop Star to attack it, I guess. Kirby chases after and destroys Nova to prevent this, then gets attacked by an angry Marx. Because he shoots lasers and creates black holes, I guess Nova did give him some more power (otherwise Marx could have easily attempted to take over Dreamland way earlier), yet none of this magic is in need of wings. He spits a lot of attacks like ice and lasers, kinda gross. Marx Soul also has very similar wings despite Nova being in no condition to create them. All Marx happened to do was absorb some of its remaining power. Besides, I have doubts about Nova
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or Star Dream
being able to create life
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other than instable clones.
I know it could very well be different. It could just be the other way around and Marx can spawn his wings only by making use of powerful magic given to him. That would make a nice explanation for their strange looks. A character with very similar wings, Flandere Scarlet from Touhou, is also said to have artificially created them herself. The color, hearts and arrows could be traced back to Nova's color, heart and weathercock and
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the Heart of Star Dream Soul also attacks with the same kind of sickles swirling around it
like Marx does. Yet Nova seems unlikely to have created them itself as they are pretty useless. Any other magical boss can fly without them (even no-limbs-at-all-giant-flying-eye-blob Zero while bleeding).

Although the artificial wings scenario sounds more likely, I personally love the possibility of Marx having limbs. Or do you want him to be some kind of evil Noddy clown puffball? Maybe leading such existence is (part of) his motivation? :hide: Feel free to dismiss my opinion on Marx as it is only the over-the-top bad-ass-hole Marx I like who has hands and magic and can transform by free will, the absolute madman.
Talking about Mo~Pupu!, Marx gets to stay in Dreamland despite his attempt of destroying it because the townspeople love a good fight now and then. Kirby tells him it is great 'fun battling Marx' and wishes to 'play with him again some day'.
I.e. Marx would not even have to be reformed much to be included in some more games, he could show up as a boss or ally not advised to be trusted and attacking as a test, sort of like Meta Knight does.

Tldr: I prefer a competent Marx.

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PostPosted: November 21st, 2016, 3:34 pm 
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This post will get a bit spoiler-y so I decided to put spoilers around KPR spoilers. Some things that we know are that the final boss of KPR is looking like nova, and President Haltman's daughter went missing in a tragic accident. Could it be that the daughter (Suzie, probably) went missing when Kirby destroyed Nova in Milky Way Wishes? So that would mean that Haltman and Star Dream was around since Kirby began his adventures. (Marx acts like this is Kirby's first adventure, plus Kirby doesn't know any copy abilities in the beginning of the game)
Marx knew about Nova/Star Dream's existence, maybe because he actually works for Haltman Works Company.
Somewhat off-topic, but I created a timeline theory too. So it might be a *kirby* character theory?
  1. Earth gets frozen over and got somehow transported into the star system Planet Popstar is in. (becomes shiver star)
  2. Kirby came to Dream Land
  3. Kirby's Dream Land (Kirby can't copy yet.)
  4. Milky Way Wishes (Kirby destroys Nova, learns all copy abilities)
  5. Spring Breeze (Just a remake of Kirby's Dreamland. You can remove either of those two games just fine)
  6. Gourmet Race (Dedede is still a huge glutton, so he races kirby for food)
  7. Dyna Blade (This probably fits the best here. It has to come before Revenge of Metaknight though, because Dynablade helps Kirby)
  8. Kirby's Adventure (First time Kirby meets Meta Knight; Kirby defeats Nightmare) *ANIME ENDS HERE*!!!
  9. Revenge of Metaknight (Metaknight takes revenge and conquers Dreamland)
  10. Kirby's Dreamland 2 (Starts the dark matter trilogy; Susie starts collecting (mini-)bosses from all around the world)
  11. Kirby's Dreamland 3 (Why not?)
  12. Kirby 64 (Kirby finishes Zero off once again, this time destroying all dark matter; Blueprints for Holo Defense API found on Shiver Star)
  13. <- Space for blob
  14. Kirby Mass Attack (Start of treasure quadrology; Daroach introduces himself)
  15. Kirby Squeak Squad (Daroach gets too obsessed with treasure hunting; Kirby continues treasure hunting)
  16. Kirby and the Amazing Mirror (Kirby continues treasure hunting in the mirror world - split into four)
  17. The Great Cave Offensive (Kirby finishes his treasure hunting adventures by selling the triforce)
  18. <- Space for blob
  19. Kirby's Return to Dreamland (name says all)
  20. Kirby Triple Deluxe (Susie finishes off with her collection; returns to haltman works)
  21. <- Space for blob
  22. Kirby Planet Robobot (See the other robobot references)
A list of games I have no idea where they could fit and whether they *really* happened in this universe: :???:
  • Canvas Curse
  • Rainbow Curse
  • Epic Yarn
When putting this timeline in here I moved KTD from above KDL2 to below RTDL. I don't know why I placed it there in the first place, but I think it had something to do with paintra and drawcia being siblings or something

Edit: I just had the theory that because earth turned into shiver star, human civilization became nomadic, moving between stars and mechanizing them. Haltman works company does exactly that and found the perfect planet for humans to settle.


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PostPosted: November 21st, 2016, 10:00 pm 
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Wasn't the Kirby timeline already confirmed as a straight timeline following the release of the games?
Like:
1. Kirby's Dream Land
2. Kirby's Adventure
3. Kirby's Dream Land 2
4. Kirby Super Star
And the list goes on...
It makes sense to me, since I never saw any continuity mistakes in the series.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, all games are canon with the exception of Kirby's Avanlanche and some minor minigames. (like the ones in Mass Attack)

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PostPosted: November 23rd, 2016, 5:43 pm 
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[*]Kirby Mass Attack (Start of treasure quadrology; Daroach introduces himself)
[*]Kirby Squeak Squad (Daroach gets too obsessed with treasure hunting; Kirby continues treasure hunting)
The way Daroach introduces himself in Mass Attack references Squeak Squad. Mass Attack can't be before Squeak Squad.
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Wasn't the Kirby timeline already confirmed as a straight timeline following the release of the games?
Like:
1. Kirby's Dream Land
2. Kirby's Adventure
3. Kirby's Dream Land 2
4. Kirby Super Star
And the list goes on...
It makes sense to me, since I never saw any continuity mistakes in the series.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, all games are canon with the exception of Kirby's Avanlanche and some minor minigames. (like the ones in Mass Attack)
Meta Knightmare Returns is a what if story as of now.
As far as I know, the timeline is in release date order, not that a timeline matters for a story light franchise.

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PostPosted: November 24th, 2016, 5:55 pm 
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Meta Knightmare Returns is a what if story as of now.
As far as I know, the timeline is in release date order, not that a timeline matters for a story light franchise.
Yeah. I wasn't including the arenas/extras modes in that. (^v^)
Just the normal games. It just makes more sense for the timeline being in the order of the release dates of the games.
With that, HAL can reference older games and don't need to think too much about inconsistency and plot holes.

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Let's revive KRR and all of it's features.
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