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 Post subject: Re: Ask NK!
PostPosted: February 18th, 2008, 6:08 pm 
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It may surprise you Super Star Kirby, but stages are banned in tournaments for a reason. And that reason isn't because they "suck at other stages." How do I know this? Because it's obvious they don't suck at the game in the first place. Stages are banned in tournaments because they give unfair advantages.

And in regards to your point saying items are there to be used I'll say this. Item Select is there, isn't that to be used also?
He makes a few good points, Super Star Kirby. Heed them.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask NK!
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True, I just think everything in the game, hence its reason to exist, should be used. Sure I like Fountain of Dreams is good, but there are other stages to be used, not necessarily for tournaments. They aren't a bad thing, but focusing only on tournaments is, because the creators put a lot of work into it, and for those who only play tournaments, then all that's in Brawl for them is new characters.


BTW, is Kirby's hammer able to help get back to the stage by spinning it? I saw a gameplay video, but I'm not sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask NK!
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True, I just think everything in the game, hence its reason to exist, should be used. Sure I like Fountain of Dreams is good, but there are other stages to be used, not necessarily for tournaments. They aren't a bad thing, but focusing only on tournaments is, because the creators put a lot of work into it, and for those who only play tournaments, then all that's in Brawl for them is new characters.


BTW, is Kirby's hammer able to help get back to the stage by spinning it? I saw a gameplay video, but I'm not sure.
People play the game the way they want, and if they enjoy play it that way, there is no reason to criticize them for it. And do you mean in Melee? If so, yes, I heard that Kirby's hammer can help you get back on the stage. If you mean in Brawl, I haven't tested it, as there really is no reason to. He has plenty of jumps already.

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LET GO OF THE TOURNAMENT!!! IT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF THE GAME!!!
http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode ... ous06.html

Say hello to Tourney Mode. Its purpose is to have tournaments with, I.E.: the exact opposite of what you are saying.


Different people will play different ways. If StarMaster here wants to play on one stage with no items then that's okay (As long as he doesn't say that everyone else is playing it wrong). If that wasn't okay, then why would the game give him the option to di it?

Hell, this time around there's even an "All off" button. Not only can you turn off all the items, but apparently the developers noted how popular an option that is and decided to make it easier to do.

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I said it's not the purpose of the game. Tourney mode is the tournaments. And OK, I get it, forgive me for going off topic. This is a topic to ask NK. I apologize to those who I have....offended. BUT those who do nothing but the tourneys should try the rest of the awesome games.

How many times can Meta-Knight jump? Dedede? Is Kirby's jump still the best of all characters? Triple jump included.

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Pretty sure all three have five jumps.

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Here's something. Pit's Up+B allows him to fly, correct? Is there an attack to this as well, or is it just limited flight capabilities?

...And what does "Angel Ring" do?

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I said it's not the purpose of the game. Tourney mode is the tournaments.
Tourney mode is part of the game! I do not understand how you can argue that using the functions of part of the game is not the game's purpose.

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Here's something. Pit's Up+B allows him to fly, correct? Is there an attack to this as well, or is it just limited flight capabilities?

...And what does "Angel Ring" do?
Pit's Up B is used entirely for recovery purposes. And honestly, it's too good at what it does. Pit has the best recovery in the game from what I recall.

Angel Ring is the spinning blade attack you see Pit doing in videos. You know, the one with the obnoxious "AAAAAANANANANANANANANANANANANANA" whenever he uses it. It's mainly used just to score multiple hits on your opponent. You can pin people up against a wall and slash the hell out of them with it. It also reflects projectiles which makes it ridiculously good. Pit is awesome.

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Which one is an accurate depiction of Dedede's Golden Hammer animation?

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Tsk tsk, Super Star Kirby, I'm gonna get Brawl and not stick with Melee, because I like Brawl more. Why? First and foremost, the most obvious reason, ONLINE PLAY! I'm tired of having to face those nub level 9 comps when my brothers don't wanna play me. Two, I like Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle and Charizard, could care less for Ivysaur), Meta Knight, King Dedede and Sonic. Four, this is actually almost important as Online Play to me, and thats that Kirby has been boosted insanely, he's definately getting out of that damn Low Tier. Only changes I dislike about Brawl is that Kirby sounds completely different from Melee (most of the time) and Pichu was removed, thats it.

Also, here's another question for NK (sorry I don't ask them all at once)

1. What Tier do you think Sonic would be in?
2. Has Falcon been boosted or nerfed?
3. I know Pit's recovery is god-like, but with charged (not fully, maybe half way) up smashes from characters such as Ganondorf, would it be possible to take him out under 100%? And how hard is it to spike Pit and can he recover from spikes?
4. Which characters do you think would be top tiers?
5. Whats the difference between Squirtle's Water Gun and Mario's FLUDD and which would you say is better?

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Which one is an accurate depiction of Dedede's Golden Hammer animation?
Aren't they the same? Except the first one is full speed and the second one is slowed down. I tell ya, the golden hammer is speedy, swingwise.

And an even better, and more evil thought... If an opponent is hit with either water gun or the FLUDD after their third jump (or equivelant), do they regain their third jump? I ask because it seems like it's more like Whispy's wind from 64 Dream Land and maybe Melee/Brawl Green Greens if it was done there (but pushes back better) than an actual attack.

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Which one is an accurate depiction of Dedede's Golden Hammer animation?
Aren't they the same? Except the first one is full speed and the second one is slowed down. I tell ya, the golden hammer is speedy, swingwise.

And an even better, and more evil thought... If an opponent is hit with either water gun or the FLUDD after their third jump (or equivelant), do they regain their third jump? I ask because it seems like it's more like Whispy's wind from 64 Dream Land and maybe Melee/Brawl Green Greens if it was done there (but pushes back better) than an actual attack.
Don't know about Water Gun, but I saw the IGN overview of Mario and no they don't get their third jump back.

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Aren't they the same? Except the first one is full speed and the second one is slowed down. I tell ya, the golden hammer is speedy, swingwise.
He was.. asking about the speed. He wanted to know which animation displayed the actual speed that they're swung at.

Also tiers will change as techniques and glitches are discovered, and it is fairly impastable to tell where a character will end up once people have discovered most of that stuff :< Asking about tiers right now is kinda dumb.

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Which one is an accurate depiction of Dedede's Golden Hammer animation?
Both are, I assume. The first is the normal Golden Hammer animation and the other is when it malfunctions. It was an update on the Dojo.
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2. Has Falcon been boosted or nerfed?
3. I know Pit's recovery is god-like, but with charged (not fully, maybe half way) up smashes from characters such as Ganondorf, would it be possible to take him out under 100%? And how hard is it to spike Pit and can he recover from spikes?
5. Whats the difference between Squirtle's Water Gun and Mario's FLUDD and which would you say is better?
2)...Neither. He's pretty much the same from what I've seen. Same as DK.
3) I guess so? I mean, Ganondorf is still pretty !@#$% strong. Even stronger than he was in Melee. He's horribly slow though. I don't know about spiking. Don't play as characters that have spikes.
5) I think Squirtle's Water Gun goes farther. I think...

I'm not going to bother answering the tier questions considering I'm not a tourney player? Geez.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask NK!
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Actually the Golden/Squeeky Hammer seems to move at the same speed from when I played. The only difference is obviously the damage and win is exchanged for the fastest squeek I ever heard. As for Water Gun/F.L.U.D.D. I dunno, I didn't use Squirtle or Mario much. I don't think this was being asked before, but I read something about level 9 computers so I will point out that the level 9 computers on Brawl are majorly buffed in terms of intelligence. They feel more human-like when you fight them. Obviously they don't fully feel like a human player, but are still pretty great for AI compared to Melee.

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In my opinion, the level 9 computers do play like human opponents. Above average ones at that. They seriously give you a challenge. So if you're one of those people who had trouble beating a level 9 in Melee better brace yourselves for an asskicking if you plan to fight level 9s in Brawl.

And in regards to the Golden Hammer thing I was just making an educated guess. Not really sure if that second animation is just someone slowing things down in Training Mode or not. If what you say is true Viktormoros, then that may be the case.

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Question tiem!

If you've played as Mr. Game & Watch, how different is he compared to his Melee counterpart? Aside his Nair and up B... and Dair, since I've seen the changes in those attacks.

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If you've played as Mr. Game & Watch, how different is he compared to his Melee counterpart? Aside his Nair and up B... and Dair, since I've seen the changes in those attacks.
SPEED! GOTTA MOVE FAS---*Well ok, not getting into that song* Mr. Game and Watch moves so much faster than he did on Melee. :101grin:
I can't be 100% sure since I didn't use him as much as I did as other characters, but I think he doesn't fly off as easy either, just a little bit heavier. I am 100% sure on the speed boost though. The Up+B, and D+Air was the most noticeable feature aside from speed that I noticed when playing as him, and the Final Smash of Octopus is extremely useful in my opinion.

Wait this is Ask NK not Vik...
And wait why is my HP bar thing almost halfway? Is that post related or did I do something wrong?

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How different is Toon Link from normal Link? For that matter, how different is he from Melee's Young Link? Exactly the same, or tweaked enough to make most players modify their strategies?

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